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	<title>Comments on: Dreamwork &#8211; &#8220;The Seminar&#8221; &#8211; Stage Two</title>
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	<description>Think of me as Aleister Crowley with a Nikon D80 (and self-respect)</description>
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		<title>By: Hemlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hemlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fiona—I think especially in high school, it has a lot to do with the parents.  If they push their children for more marks (e.g. &quot;Oh, you &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; received 99%?&quot;) then that child learns really quick that half an hour of wasting class time can be the difference between their parent&#039;s approval and disapproval.  I bombarded the poor lecturer with emails!  I first explained why he received the mark he did, then asked her if she thinks it&#039;s best we just roll over on this one and give him the extra 1-2 marks anyway, then went back and stood my ground and said I have to insist he deserves no more than 5/10.

This student is actually quite good at being contrite when he needs to swindle things from his superiors, but his pettiness shines through rather evidently.  He wrote me a long email after my first response that in some ways accepted his own fault but also articulately persuaded why he felt he deserved more, without imposing his sense of self-importance on me.  After I read that email, I actually began to think he is not as disrespectful as he seems.  Unfortunately, he couldn&#039;t help himself and sent a further angry email, cc&#039;ed the lecturer, that basically threatened us that he would appeal unless we increased his mark.

You are totally right.  If he does get his increase, he&#039;ll spend the rest of his life demanding and complaining his way through it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiona—I think especially in high school, it has a lot to do with the parents.  If they push their children for more marks (e.g. &#8220;Oh, you <em>only</em> received 99%?&#8221;) then that child learns really quick that half an hour of wasting class time can be the difference between their parent&#8217;s approval and disapproval.  I bombarded the poor lecturer with emails!  I first explained why he received the mark he did, then asked her if she thinks it&#8217;s best we just roll over on this one and give him the extra 1-2 marks anyway, then went back and stood my ground and said I have to insist he deserves no more than 5/10.</p>
<p>This student is actually quite good at being contrite when he needs to swindle things from his superiors, but his pettiness shines through rather evidently.  He wrote me a long email after my first response that in some ways accepted his own fault but also articulately persuaded why he felt he deserved more, without imposing his sense of self-importance on me.  After I read that email, I actually began to think he is not as disrespectful as he seems.  Unfortunately, he couldn&#8217;t help himself and sent a further angry email, cc&#8217;ed the lecturer, that basically threatened us that he would appeal unless we increased his mark.</p>
<p>You are totally right.  If he does get his increase, he&#8217;ll spend the rest of his life demanding and complaining his way through it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my, some of your students are really quite a handful. Ever since high school I had a pet peeve for mark-scabbing students, and especially those who would waste half the class time arguing over a mere one mark. Will you drop a hint to the lecturer that he really deserves 5/10? If he gets his way, I fear that he&#039;ll be back next year with double the attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my, some of your students are really quite a handful. Ever since high school I had a pet peeve for mark-scabbing students, and especially those who would waste half the class time arguing over a mere one mark. Will you drop a hint to the lecturer that he really deserves 5/10? If he gets his way, I fear that he&#8217;ll be back next year with double the attitude.</p>
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